Wednesday, May 24, 2006

How did I miss this?

Apparently, being anti-gay is enough to cost you a Conservative nomination.

This comes as quite a shock to me. Why is someone like Stockwell Day, who has in the past referred to homosexuality as a disorder, allowed to sit in cabinet? Why was Grant Hill - in his capacity as a doctor no less! - able to cite all kinds of bogus science claiming that homosexuality was a health risk? Come to think of it, why is half the Conservative caucus allowed to sit there in the first place? Just asking...

12 Comments:

At 5/24/2006 2:28 PM, Blogger Red Tory said...

Ah, Lifesite... always a reliable source of amusing wingnuttery.

Did you notice the little blooper in their subheadline? "Stephen Harper wants pro-same-sex 'marriage' Ontario MPP John Baird to be the riding's candidate"

Baird may be surprised to discover that he's "pro-same-sex marriage."

What a bunch of screwballs.

 
At 5/24/2006 4:19 PM, Anonymous Loony in LotusLand said...

Ryan the real issue here is the Conservative Party's current nomination process not the social position of any potential candidate. In the election of 2004 several ridings were hijacked by mass signups of special interest groups My own riding of White Rock South Surrey was taken over by local church groups who ousted a very popular three term MP and replaced her with Christian lawyer from downtown Vancouver who has never even lived near White Rock. One riding north of me is where an East Indian group took over the riding of Chuck Cadman. Harper still does not have control of the party apparatus and could not make any changes to the process for the 2006 election so he granted nomination exemptions for sitting MPs and reserved the right of not signing nomination papers to try to limit these democratic distortions. If he can get enough influence on the executive he should be able to reform that process within the next two years.

 
At 5/24/2006 4:37 PM, Blogger Mike said...

RT,

Actually, Baird is pro-SSM. He vote that way in the Ontario legislature. its one of the few points going in his favour.

In fact, rumours abound that JB may be more like Scott Brison and Bill Sicksay than he likes to admit. And he is really close to Pierre Poilievre.

I live in the next riding over. None of this is a surprise to anyone in Ottawa.

 
At 5/24/2006 6:05 PM, Blogger Kyle Carruthers said...

I dont know if this proves anything. John Baird was kind of a star candidate so its not too surprising.

ex-Ndip, you are out to lunch.

 
At 5/24/2006 6:28 PM, Blogger HearHere said...

John Baird, the Conservative Minister of the Treasury is a gay man. That is not a secret. The Conservative Party is a big tent - social issues will ALWAYS be a free vote- unlike the closed parties where members are whipped or the Liberal party where one of your Blogs has said they will ask the new leader NOT to sign the nomination papers of any MP who is pro-life or anti-SSM.

How can you represent a country of 33 million people with diverse views if you don't allow diverse views in your party.

Just asking. .

 
At 5/24/2006 7:47 PM, Anonymous Loony in LotusLand said...

Ex-Ndip that is not a fair question. The Conservatives could run a fence post in White Rock and win, as long as the fence post didn't speak. This is the western tip of reform country. A peninsula bordered by beaches, the border and the outskirts of suburban greater Vancouver, White Rock south is home to the largest retirement community in Canada, in the middle resides a homogenous upper middle class community, and Cloverdale in the north hosts the second largest rodeo in Canada. Quite frankly Ex-Ndip an Ontario Liberal is lucky to be allowed to immigrate here never mind whining about his misfortune at the polls.

 
At 5/24/2006 8:33 PM, Blogger Miles Lunn said...

I think this had more to do with the individual riding. If the riding was a socially conservative one like some of the rural ridings just outside Ottawa I am sure Harper would have allowed Pacheo to run. The reason he didn't is this is an economically conservative riding, but socially liberal. Here in Vancouver, in Richmond, North Vancouver, and West Vancouver-Sunshine Coast-Sea to Sky Country, the cons ran religious right nutbars and in all three cases, ridings that were expected to go Conservative, ended up staying or going Liberal. I suspect the same thing would have happened in Ottawa West-Nepean.

 
At 5/25/2006 8:09 AM, Anonymous snowzone said...

just thank the canadian voters for that.

somehow they ignored the hidden reform agenda in favour of a 1% decrease in gst. at least, i'm assuming that was their only valid reason.

i can't wait till they have to pay for it.

 
At 5/25/2006 9:54 AM, Blogger DPW said...

Meanwhile The Globe and Mail reports this morning that the we-define-who-is-Christain homophobes are threatening to oppose sitting CPC MPs who are "soft" on same-sex marriage. Nomination battles are imagined if a CPC MP does not vote to re-open the marriage issue and/or vote to repeal the marriage bill, should it come to that.

 
At 5/25/2006 3:31 PM, Blogger Miles Lunn said...

Meanwhile The Globe and Mail reports this morning that the we-define-who-is-Christain homophobes are threatening to oppose sitting CPC MPs who are "soft" on same-sex marriage. Nomination battles are imagined if a CPC MP does not vote to re-open the marriage issue and/or vote to repeal the marriage bill, should it come to that.

Thats great news for us Liberals. This will just show how intolerant and narrow the party is, therefore we will have no problem kicking them out of office next election.

 
At 5/28/2006 9:27 AM, Blogger Parliamentary Sex Therapist said...

Harper will never allow the Christian right to have a veto over Conservative candidate nominations. No Conservative MP will be pushed aside because he or she supports equal (same-sex) marriage. You can take that one to the bank.

 
At 5/28/2006 4:38 PM, Blogger Miles Lunn said...

Harper will never allow the Christian right to have a veto over Conservative candidate nominations. No Conservative MP will be pushed aside because he or she supports equal (same-sex) marriage. You can take that one to the bank.

Perhaps not next election since he wants to win a majority. But once he gets a majority, you bet he will do that. He wants to swing Canada far to the right, but knows the electorate won't tolerate it.

 

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